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In the latest edition of the No-Till Farmer podcast — brought to you by Yetter Farm Equipment, Senior Editor John Dobberstein shares highlights from his interviews with several exhibitors at the Commodity Classic show in San Antonio as they discussed products, innovations and management strategies that you’ll find of interest for this coming season.
Listen in as you won’t want to miss some of the most interesting conversations from the show floor this year.
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John Dobberstein:
Welcome to the No Till Farmer podcast. I'm John Dobberstein, senior editor of No Till Farmer. In the latest edition brought to you by Yetter Farm Equipment, we share highlights from my interviews with several exhibitors at the Commodity Classic Show in San Antonio as they shared products, innovations, and management strategies that you'll find of interest for this coming season. Please listen in as you won't want to miss some of the most interesting conversations from the show floor this year. We sat down with Ryan Britt, second vice president of the National Association of Conservation Districts and a no-tiller from Missouri, who talked about what the association is doing to help farmers implement conservation practices, as well as what's happening lately on his farm as the new season arrives.
Ryan, what's your job with the district?
Ryan Britt:
So I'm a farmer in North Central Missouri, fifth generation farmer. My father and I raised corn, soybeans, wheat, and then cow calf to finish beef. So diversified operation. I'm on my local soil and water conservation district board in Randolph County, Missouri. Then I'm past state president of the state association. Now I'm on the national. I'm second vice president for the National Association of Conservation Districts.
John Dobberstein:
Okay, great. From a conservation district level, looking at it nationally, what are some of the things that you're trying to advocate for this year specifically?
Ryan Britt:
Sure. So regenerative ag is the buzzword of the year, I guess, maybe. But with the regenerative bag initiative that the secretary is pushing, it aligns, it's still conservation. And we've been doing conservation for a long time right beside NRCS. The earliest conservation districts are 90 years old plus right there with NRCS. And so as the National Association, we try to help the districts help NRCS, but number one, we're trying to help the landowner. And so that may be helping with training for the district employees or board members. It's also helping with grant opportunities as those come. We spend a lot of time trying to build up the district so that they can help the landowner.
John Dobberstein:
What are some of the needs that the local districts seem to have that you're hearing a lot?
Ryan Britt:
So there's been challenges in the last couple years as we've shifted programs and emphasis. And so funding streams that they were relying on, they're having to pivot and try to align those to where it fits the current priorities. And so I think most of the districts are trying to adjust. They're trying to get the boots on the ground to have enough people to offer that technical assistance. Conservation technical assistance is just a huge issue to have enough people so that when the landowner is interested, we actually have somebody there that can go talk to them, that can show them what's working, what's not working, where do we go from here.
John Dobberstein:
What kind of questions are you getting at the show about conservation?
Ryan Britt:
Mostly it's where do I find funding to do what I want to do? Or who can show me what works and what doesn't work? And the great thing is we've got soil health champions. We've got people that have done this for a long time and have ... And NRCS is a great partner. There's other partners around the country with fish and wildlife and other organizations to where we're actually trying to help the producer. And it's been a great opportunity to talk to a lot of local district board members have come through here and we've had a chance to describe what's going on in their district and how we could help them.
John Dobberstein:
Right. So they're talking about this regenerative agriculture pilot, $700 billion. How do you see that changing the landscape with farming? What kind of effect do you think that program might have?
Ryan Britt:
I think what I'm most excited about with that program is the idea of looking at the whole farm planning. And so instead of just looking at one resource concern, I've got this one ditch. It's, okay, what's going on? What's causing that ditch? How did we get here? Not just fix the ditch, but fix everything that's going on around it. Having a plan for the next step, the next step, the next step, and then having measurable results. So that test on the front end and the test on the back end so the producer can see, okay, if I invest this and I spend the time and the management adaptation to do this, what's it going to yield? Generally, we talk in bushels all the time, but it's hard sometimes to see that long term return on those conservation investments that we've been doing. And so by having that test on the front end and then five years later another test, we can actually see measurable results.
John Dobberstein:
Shifting to what's going on on your farm, how does your look as far as planning and all the decisions you have to make in a no-till system? How are things looking for you?
Ryan Britt:
Yeah. With our operation, and we've got some diversity between the corn, soybeans, weed, and then the cattle. And so our total acre shift doesn't change a lot. We kind of had some longer term plans on how we're going to do that. So the economics are driving the fact that we're having to be real frugal with the inputs that we're using, knowing that the return is not as high. And as we're going into the growing season this year, we're in a pretty dry environment. Missouri is overall very dry. In fact, they're running ground right now, which is pretty unusual. So the advantage we have is with some of our covered crops, I think we'll be able a little more resilient and be able to handle that a little bit. There's always the concern about a cover crop taking too much moisture out. But in my practical experience, I've seen more positive than negative in that.
It tends to hold the moisture longer when I need it and gives us the ability to get over the ground and not hurt the ground so much. So we're getting equipment geared up, getting ready to go. I'm excited that with it warming up a little bit, we might even be greening up a little bit and maybe having an opportunity to graze some cattle on some of that too.
John Dobberstein:
Right. What is your cover crop program looking like and are you going to do anything different this year?
Ryan Britt:
Yeah. So last fall, we were in a really dry environment and we traditionally have seeded everything directly behind the combine, gotten by with that for a long time. With it being so dry, we didn't get a lot of growth in the fall. It's starting to green up a little bit now. I know it's there. We'll get the growth we always do in the spring. So we're going to shift and probably do a little more inner seeding and trying to get some stuff started a little earlier, late summer, so that we can capture a little more of that fall growth and both have the soil health benefit and protecting the soil, but also opportunities for grazing and taking advantage of that diversity in our operation.
John Dobberstein:
Right. What's been the kind of go- to in your cover crop program? Is it cereal rye or-
Ryan Britt:
Cereal rye is the easy button. That's the one that you always start with if you're trying to learn. And it's just the low management easy one. Now, we're trying to take next steps and keep increasing more species. We're using some wheat in front of corn, a little easier to manage as far as nitrogen management. And even we control and to get that crop started, that cash crop started, which obviously is where we have to make sure we're not hurting.
John Dobberstein:
Have you been trying to plant earlier with your crops in the last few years compared to maybe what most people do? You
Ryan Britt:
Bet. So we consistently have seen our earliest planted beans have been our highest yielding beans for several years in a row now. And so we keep pushing that to whatever crop insurance can. We'll usually pay up to plant earlier if we can. We appreciate that option and we're just seeing it reward us consistently. And in fact, to the point that we used to always plant corn before we planted beans and we've switched that entirely around. We'll plant beans and then as soon as we're confident things are headed the right way, we'll go ahead and get a corn planter started, but that the beans have rewarded us for pushing earlier.
John Dobberstein:
Our next interview is with Nick Cardona, senior marketing director at Huma, who talked about the company's super fast product and other ventures the company has going this year.
Nick Cardona:
So probably don't need to tell you or your readers about the phosphorus prices, right? They are through the roof and this brings a really great opportunity for us. We've got a product called Superfoss. It's a phos acid with our microcarbon technology, and it's an 050 product. So one gallon of this liquid product will give you 50 units of phosphorus, right? A very popular way to apply phosphorus, of course, is with a starter fertilizer system with corn. In many cases, people will use a 10340 and they'll put about five gallons, which will get them about 20 units of phosphorus. So with our super phosp product, you only need to put out two quarts as opposed to five gallons, and that will get you 25 units of phosphorus. So from a nutrient use efficiency story, it's very compelling. It's less environmental loading, clearly, right? And right now there is a major price advantage that we've got.
So we're seeing on the retail level about a 30% advantage in a pricing structure for us versus 10340. And then from a performance standpoint, we've done lots of trials. We've had retail partners do lots of trials for us throughout the Midwest and we're basically ... I mean, we are on par. In many cases where we won the two bushel better, but we're saying it's even, right? But then there was some trials done this past year in soils with high pH soil, anything above seven or so. And then we start seeing some distinct yield advantages there of about seven bushels that we're seeing in those kind of soils. So in those cases, we are getting a yield advantage, a yield bump, but even when we don't, when you take a look at the price advantage that we've got. So we did an analysis. So let's say a guy is 2000 acres of corn that is putting a starter fertilizer on the 10340.
We're able to save $14,000 in costs that's based on retail prices, MSRP of us versus 10340.
John Dobberstein:
Right. How did you develop this chemistry to be so concentrated?
Nick Cardona:
So that comes down to our microcarbon technology. So this is a material, so it's a material and a process. I think that's pretty important. So the material is very unique in that it comes from Idaho and above ground mine. We've seen nothing like it and it's a humate based substance. And then we extract this and we put together a process where we make our microcarbon technology. It's got some other biostimulant additives to it as well, but it's our proprietary product, but it is the base foundation for all of our liquids. So that's why when we say we have carbon based products, we don't have salt based products. And what it does is it really enhances nutrient use efficiency because since it is carbon based, it's very plant friendly. So the plant recognizes the carbon readily absorbs. So if we are looking at a foliar application, for example, with any of our liquid products with our MCT in it, we get into that plant sap within one hour.
So that delivers what that farmer wants, because right now these days, farmers, they farm in real time these days with all their technology. So we can get exactly what we want when we want it. And of course, there's rainfast advantages to that as well. So that's an excellent carry. We say it's the most efficient way to deliver crop nutrients and crop inputs in general. It also works very well in the soil. So when applied to the soil, we see uptake within 24 hours.
John Dobberstein:
These are very innovative times for farm machinery. We sat down with Green Eye Technology to talk about their dual line approach to applying crop protection products to control weeds and what is study from the University of Nebraska found about their technology.
Green Eye Technology:
Yeah. So overall, so green eye technology, we've actually been commercially available on US farmers machines for three years now. So we've been in the market now for a few years. And our focus really is around the dual line, dual tank system, which allows farmers to be able to broadcast residuals at the same time, be able to target spraying contact killers through an aftermarket solution. And so our key focus really is around better weed management while also reducing input costs by using less herbicides. And then also, our research shows that there's a yield benefit as well, because using less chemicals creates less damage on the crops, provides better crop health. And so actually here just this past week, University of Nebraska, Lincoln published a study showcasing that dual line approach provides better weed management as well as a yield benefit to the crop, which farther just validates our design of our system and how we go to market as an aftermarket precision targeted spraying solution.
John Dobberstein:
Right. Tell me a little bit about the genesis of your company and the design of the technology.
Green Eye Technology:
Yeah. So they've been doing testing now for over five years in the US. Like I said, it's been commercially available on customer machines for three years now. And I would say largely over the last three years, a lot of the focus has been on product development, product refinement, and just continuing to fine tune it the system. And now we're really shifting into more of a commercial focus. And so we're really aggressively growing the team. So we've doubled the size of the US team here in the last six months, and we're seeing results from it. So we're seeing a lot of good sales growth across the US. We now have customers in 13 states across the US and really looking to start building that foundation and infrastructure to really scale and grow the business long term, both from a support perspective, from a sales perspective. And in the overall machine perspective, it's really, again, taking a dual line approach, dual tank to be able to reduce herbicide usage using targeted spring.
And so our customers last year on average saved 82% in herbicides just based on the targeted technology. The other thing too about our solution is on our targeted line, it's a 10 inch spacing. And so we are refining the models to be able to hit a 10 by 10 swath. So 10 inch by 10 inch swath per weeds compared to some other competitors that are at the 45 by 48 inch swath. And so again, that helps us be more accurate, helps us from a savings perspective, which improves ROI for customers.
John Dobberstein:
How did you develop the data that makes up the AI that works? How did you train the software?
Green Eye Technology:
Yeah, no, great question. So I mean, for us, we have a camera system. And so to your point, the data is everything. And so through the years, both from a research and development perspective, and even now as we're commercial, the cameras are constantly collecting images. So in the beginning, so if we start with a new crop like corn initially, you're training the model based on images, you have a human annotating, here's the weed, here's the corn, and you're collecting images at different stages across the growth cycle. And then once you have someone go in and annotate it, then they're begin to use AI to kind of help machine learn from that system. And so for us right now, we're commercially available in corn, soybeans, and cotton, fully available, and we continue to expand into new crop types. And so what we do is typically now we work with the current customer who has other crop types and they're using the machine to capture images for us.
And then we're using that dataset to kind of start to build out our own models for additional crops as we look to continue to expand in the market.
John Dobberstein:
Right. Tell me a little bit about the study. Were you surprised by the findings? Were you confirm what you pretty much already thought or ...
Green Eye Technology:
Yeah, it confirms what our soil scientist already knew from our own trials that we've done internal. We've launched with the dual line solution because we wanted to be focused on the agronomy and what really is going to be best served for weed management. And through that, the development team noticed right away that a dual line approach is the best way to do it. And we wanted to add the secondary tank to not cut into capacity. But overall, I mean, in our own studies, we've seen the same results that it provides a better lead management solution, which is critically important in addition to the herbicide savings and chemical savings. But then also the yield benefits is something that we had seen, but it's always good to have a third party back that up.
John Dobberstein:
And how do you guys get your technology to growers?
Green Eye Technology:
Right now, currently we sell directly to farmers. And so we have a field sales team, a field support team. So we do the installation. So we pick up the machine, do the installation, and bring the machine back to the customer, and then we send out a technician to do a training on the machine, everything from the mechanical to the software to the operator, do very hands-on training, and then we support them for import. That said, as part of our growth stories, we're really focused on continuing to build out the commercial aspects of the business in North America. And we are starting to explore dealer opportunities to continue to expand our sales and support reach across the US.
John Dobberstein:
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At Commodity Classic, we also caught up with Elizabeth Lemings, an agronomist at Tessenderlo Kerley and Dr. Jake Vossenkemper, director of research and agronomy at Twin State, as they discussed how theosulfate sulfur can help protect nitrogen, reduce losses and improve grower returns.
Elizabeth Lemmings:
The goal over the last four years, we've done, I think, about nine locations now, really looking at coveland being ammonium thyrosulfate with UAN like farmers commonly do to get that sulfur out there. What we took a second look at and kind of, I guess, relooked at some previous research, looking at thiosulfates as a nitrification inhibitor. So now at today's common sulfur rates that are needed, higher rates of sulfur are being applied and at those higher rates and banded applications, we're seeing really good results with that thyrosole actually slowing down that nitrification process in the soil, which ultimately means guarding and protecting against nitrogen loss.
John Dobberstein:
Right. Is it continuing to ... I know that's always been a little bit of concern with losing nitrates. Is that continuing to be a discussion point?
Elizabeth Lemmings:
Absolutely. I mean, especially in Iowa where Jake's at, that's at the forefront of a lot of guy's mind. And so managing that nitrogen effectively, of course, using our core Rs, the right rate, the right time, place, protecting that nitric and investment out there with a sulfur fertilizer just brings added benefit even more.
Jake Vossenkemper:
John, given the commodity price landscape right now, guys are trying to figure out where they can cut. And I've had many conversations with many farmers, "Jake, do you think I could cut back land rate? This is what I'm using." And depending on what they say, yes or no, but generally it depends because with nitrogen, we don't know when we plant the crop how much nitrogen we actually need. We just don't know, right? So because of that, it's even more important in a 2026 landscape to protect the nitrogen that you're going to apply. If you're going to cut back, now it's way more important to protect what you're going to put out there. So it's even more important this year in my opinion. Are
John Dobberstein:
You getting any other interesting questions on the show floor about products or timing or-
Jake Vossenkemper:
I don't know that I'm getting an interest in questions on the show floor, but a lot of the questions I get tours, given the landscape we're in is how can we cut? And we talked about nitrogen, but the same kind of applies for P&K. It isn't just, this is how much I have in the soil and this is the response we expect. There's a lot of environmental dependencies and there's interactions with hybrids and that depends too. And so that's why I'm a big proponent of banding. You put those nutrients in the root zone and you increase the concentration in that root zone. And then even if you have a really dry year, you still have enough potassium available. So yes, in some cases you can cut, but you need to do advising and being efficient as possible that P&K is so important, particularly in 2026.
Big proponent abandoned P&K. Because I do research, I have lots of observations on this. I have 16 locations. These are randomized replicated locations. At some locations, there's a 20 ... At one location, at the highest end, there was a 20 bushel yield increase demand. At the other side of those 20 locations, three or four or five of those locations, there was no difference, right? But again, it depends on what's the demand of the crop. The demand of the crop is really high. You need that P&K roof zone. If the demand of the crop isn't very high, then it doesn't matter that much.
Elizabeth Lemmings:
So how do you tell which one's going to
Jake Vossenkemper:
Need that? So you can't, right? So what you do is when in doubt, you position the nutrients in the root zone so that way when you have a year where you have a big need for P&K fertility, it's there capitalizing because it doesn't have to cost you a bunch of money to ban news. I mean, it can cost you a little bit more, but not a lot more. So when in doubt, be efficient with nutrients, and then it's there in that year where you have.
John Dobberstein:
At AgriLiquid's booth at Commodity Classic, Ryan Harbison, regional agronomist, talked about ways that growers can care for their crops this year in spite of tight financial conditions, so they can protect yield of potential and have the best chance at being profitable in 2026. So she said you guys were talking this year about helping growers care for their crops and getting through a really tight financial situation for a lot of people. What are some things you've been talking about?
Ryan Harbison:
Well, a lot of what we've been talking about is kind of like that methodology that don't throw the baby out with the bath water, right? We understand it's going to be a tight year, but this is a good year to really take a look at what your actual inputs need to be this year. So cheap fertilizer sometimes is just cheap fertilizer, right? And if it doesn't provide a return, well, it's still an expense then. So really looking at those inputs that are going to provide a positive return to you in a tough year is a key thing that we have to take a look at.
John Dobberstein:
Okay. So how do you suggest they go about their program? What do you think they should
Ryan Harbison:
Do? So we start with soil test, right? We always kind of started a soil test. So I like looking at a soil test, historical crop yields and kind of yield goals, right? And then what have you done in the past? What do you know works on your farm? These guys are the experts on their acre, and so what works on their farm, and then taking that and seeing where we maybe need to refine that, where we can be more efficient. P&K may not be the big thing this year. It may be micronutrients that we need to focus more on, which can be pretty economical if you start reallocating that fertilizer budget.
John Dobberstein:
Right. Are there any support services or technology as a company that you guys offer? You just kind of work through your agronomists and-
Ryan Harbison:
Yeah, so the way we work, we work through agronos and our sales account managers, and we offer some soil testing services, but then also just the fact that we can take and read that data for you. If you're using another company or you're getting tissue tests taken, we're all trained in the fact that if you present that to us, we can kind of read that information and get you that data back.
John Dobberstein:
Are you seeing any shifts in the types of fertilizer people are using? Yeah. What are you seeing out there?
Ryan Harbison:
I think whenever you get tough years like this, it's like people decide to kind of look around. They look and see what else is out there. Efficiency gets thrown around quite a bit. And so what we look at is we have to stack that efficiency again with that positive return. And so if we're just talking efficiency and it doesn't provide return, it's kind of like that cheap fertilizer we talked about. It's a net negative and we don't want that. And so how can you be more efficient with that fertilizer dollar that you're putting out there? I use a great example. If you spend $50 on a fertility input, but you only get $10 worth of that fertility input, well, was that really a good spend? If I spend 50 bucks, I want to get as close to $50 worth of fertility into the plant. And so I think guys are a lot more open.
Growers are really open to that this year, trying to look to see, I know I've got this much money to put into the crop, how can I get the most out of that dollar?
John Dobberstein:
Right. A lot of thing I'm hearing from growers is flexibility and being able to tank mix things so they can cut down on the passes. Are all your products appropriate products take fixable or-
Ryan Harbison:
Well, so I'll give you the old agronomy cop out, right? We always want to do a tank mix type thing. But yeah, for the most part, yes. We look at that same thing. So me as an agronomist, what I look at is, how can I play in every past that you're already making across the field? So if that planter's running across the field, let's get some fertility in that. If that sprayer's running across at that herbicide application, well, how can we get some fertility in that pass? And then even late season with a fungicide, how do we play in every past that goes across the field without adding an extra application cost, right? Because if you're adding the fertility plus an $8 application, $9 application cost, that's just that much ROI that we have to provide, right?
John Dobberstein:
Yeah. Do you see any blind spots that farmers are kind of missing in terms of certain nutrients like sulfur or zinc or ...
Ryan Harbison:
Well, so those are kind of the two big ones that a lot of people talk about. But even our micro micro, what I call our micro micronutrients, just because we don't need very much onto boron, molly, copper, nickel, some of those. I think some of those are playing a bigger part in our cropping system than what we've given credit to in the past because we've done a great job with NP&K, right? Everybody talks NPK. Calcium's another one though that we kind of overlook sometimes. We make that lime application and think, okay, our calcium is going to be okay, but it's important to look at that base saturation because there's some really good available calcium sources out there. We have a product called liberate calcium that we use to kind of make that available calcium to the plant. Not just we've got in the soil, but is it available?
Well, we know that this is available, so we try to get that to the plant. And whenever you look at ... Well, tell me the last time we had a normal growing condition here, right? So stalk strength, stuff like that, that calcium's a really key component of that, and using that to help mitigate some of that risk of a crop going down lateness is
John Dobberstein:
Easy. Next up, Jeremy Hawkins, Southern regional sales manager for Helm Crop Ptection shared some of his insights about efficient and effective crop protection programs Goers looked to this year.
Jeremy Hawkins:
From a resistance standpoint, we just had confirmed water hemp, gluphosphate resistance. I mean, the tools in the toolbox, they're getting left behind. They're getting where we can't use them. And so the approach that I take is I really like a early spring burndown program With preferably some kind of residual early, like a gluphosinate and reviton in some flumi for instance, or glyphosate in there to clean up any winter weeds or early spring weeds that have emerged. And I think that's an important application, but to me, the most important application is one that we've gotten away from as an industry. When I first started in this business, we would always put some kind of residual and burn down behind the planter. And with the advent of Roundup ready crops, a lot of growers got away from that. And I think we are going to have to get back to that.
And to me, that is the most important application a grower can make is that application right behind the planter with a burndown in it.
We see it in cotton, we see it in corn, we see it in sorghum, whatever summer crop you're growing. And that's what I really stress. And the other thing that I stress at that time is that cheap should not be in your vocabulary at that point. If you want to go cheap on that first one or cheaper, less expensive, cheap's a bad word, but if you want to go less expensive on that first one, I can understand that. But that one behind the planter I think is the most important application that we can make. It's the things that we've all been taught over the years,
But it's more important today than ever to use multiple modes of action. Two, three modes of action at a time if you can. A lot of things are crops dependent what crop you're putting it in. Like I said, I preach to my guys to use either like a glyphosate and Reviton. If we're going on corn ground, there's a ton of great pre-emerge herbicides in the marketplace, but don't be dependent on one pre-emerge. I tell my guys to put something like gluphosinate or glyphosate or with Revitan in there in the tank mix to get a good clean burndown plus your residual.
John Dobberstein:
So we've seen Enlist has gotten a lot more market share, at least among our raters of late. And I think they've gotten the message about depending on glyphosate too much, especially with soybeans. So I just wondered what your thoughts were on that. We try to give our guys and gals a reasonable message. To me,
Jeremy Hawkins:
It's very concerning because if we were bringing new modes of action to the market every five years, then I could probably get behind that a little better. The problem is we don't have any new modes of action that have been released in ... I think I've seen where there might be a new mode of action that is actually coming. I think the first one in 20 to 30 years. So I mean, that to me is what's really scary. And I mean, we got here. I mean, we're here. So I mean, I have an opinion of how we got here, but if that's what it is, it's an opinion. But until we have R&D going on again, that we can release new modes of action and bring a new mode of action to the party, I think we're going to be in for a world of hurt.
John Dobberstein:
Well, that's it for this episode of the No-Till Farmer Podcast. We'd like to thank the National Association of Conservation Districts, Huma, AgriLiquid, Green Eye Technology, Helm Crop Protection, and Tessenderlo Kerley for excellent information they shared with us during the show. We also want to thank our sponsor, Yetter Manufacturing, for helping to make this podcast possible. A transcript of this episode and our archive of previous podcast episodes are both available at no-tillfarer.com/podcasts. For our entire staff here at No-Till Farmer and all our great interviewed guests on this podcast, I'm John Dobberstein. Thanks for listening. Keep on no-tilling and have a great day.
