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Equipment

Ih guage wheels
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01/ 7/2008 - 11:13 P
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Wally Kuntz
Will the IH guage wheels fit on the JD 7000 hub?

If so what's the best way to put them on?

Thanks, Wally Kuntz.
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01/ 8/2008 - 12:16 P
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Wally Kuntz
Would someone happen to have the part number for the IH guage wheels. I talked to the IH dealer today, but he was not sure one the wheel that would fit on the JD planter.

Thanks again Wally.
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01/ 9/2008 - 6:23 P
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Ed Winkle
Gee Wally, I used to have that part number memorized but that was years ago! The patent went off so others make that tire now too. There is a heavier rubber that last longer and there is a softer rubber that does a better job in the Martin setup.

You can contact Howard Martin at Martin Industries in Ky or his top dealer at Moeller Ag Supply in Iowa and they can explain this and get you what you need.

Frank calls Dave Moeller "Doc" because he and his cousins and Howard and his sons pioneered this advanced notill setup and have advised thousands of farmers how to plant better without tillage.

They are both listed on Tim Reinhart's Ag Links:

http://www.agri-links.com/link.html

Discount houses like Shoup and R E Skillings carry whatever they can get the best price on. I see the Keeton is over thirty dollars now.

http://reskillings.com/

Hope this helps and happy notilling!

See you guys at NNTC today in Cincinnati!

Ed Winkle
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01/12/2008 - 10:04 P
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Wally Kuntz
Has anyone used a martin on one side and a dawn on the other side? Are they even the same size? I am thinking that would give some seed firming as will as the closing from the bottom up with the Martins. I do some planting for the guy next to me, he likes to disk 1st. Would the set up of both of them give me good preformance in both my no till and his disk fields? I have some contours to plant on all my ground, kind of thinking the Martins might pull out some seeds if I put them both on?
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01/13/2008 - 7:50 P
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Matt Hagny
Wally,

Not everyone agrees that the indented gauge tire is an improvement for the JD/Kinze/White planters. This topic has been discussed heavily in this forum and others (search the archives). For a quick synopsis of the troubles with indented gauge tires, see this page (scroll down):

http://exapta.com/knowledge/tipplanter.html

As for the firming and closing actions, you really are better off to keep those separate. Seed firming is best accomplished at the seed location. Then you can have loose soil over the seed, which is desirable.

Best regards,

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Matt Hagny, consulting agronomist since '94, founder Exapta Solutions ('99)
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01/13/2008 - 7:54 P
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Matt Hagny
Wally,

I forgot to respond to your last item. Yes, some spoked closing wheel designs have a tendency to pull seeds loose. These are predominately the ones with long slender spokes. You can chop the ends off the spokes, or go to wheels with more appropriately shaped spokes.

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Matt Hagny, consulting agronomist since '94, founder Exapta Solutions ('99)
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01/15/2008 - 4:49 P
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Ed Winkle
I wouldn't try that but if you do, tell us your results.

The Martin wheels till gently beside and below the seed to give the trench a garden like, crumbly result.

They are merely 13 residue wheels mounted backwards which makes perfect sense once you see them work.

Non RID tires were designed for tillage so in true one pass strip till this system works best together.

If you set your planter or drill up correctly, they won't spit out seeds. You may need to shim the wheels farther apart or move them closer to each other for more tillage.

I don't see any advantage to the Curvetine Wheels, I would rather have the rubber. They do little in my observerations compared to the true spading wheel. They are like using a 4 hp tiller when you need a 10 hp for your garden.

If you like them, go for them but I don't see combining wheels when a set works best.

Ed Winkle
  

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