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20 inch corn
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09/15/2004 - 1:01 pm
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Name: William GuentherSubject: 20 inch corn
Email: wguenth1@bigred.unl.edu
I was wondering if anybody has had any experience with no-tilling corn with a 20 inch row planter. I am in Northeast Nebraska and I was thinking about switch from 38's to 20's this coming year. I was wondering if it would work and if so what attachments would be necessary. We farm bottom ground to upland hills. Any thing would help me greatly. Thanks
Email: wguenth1@bigred.unl.edu
I was wondering if anybody has had any experience with no-tilling corn with a 20 inch row planter. I am in Northeast Nebraska and I was thinking about switch from 38's to 20's this coming year. I was wondering if it would work and if so what attachments would be necessary. We farm bottom ground to upland hills. Any thing would help me greatly. Thanks
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09/15/2004 - 1:01 pm
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Name: Scott Donoghue
Email: bigacres@msn.com
We tried 20 inch rows this year. Id say it worked out well,it made around 200-225 bu an acre. We rented a 16r 20inch head from Red Country in Columbus and it worked out well. The only problem was when it came time to spray the tires on our tractors were to wide so we had to have the coop spray it for us. Are you done harvesting yet? We have about 3000 acres left of corn to do in the snow so it wont be fun! Hope this helps just a bit, Scott
Email: bigacres@msn.com
We tried 20 inch rows this year. Id say it worked out well,it made around 200-225 bu an acre. We rented a 16r 20inch head from Red Country in Columbus and it worked out well. The only problem was when it came time to spray the tires on our tractors were to wide so we had to have the coop spray it for us. Are you done harvesting yet? We have about 3000 acres left of corn to do in the snow so it wont be fun! Hope this helps just a bit, Scott
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09/15/2004 - 1:01 pm
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Name: fl51
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why don't you try to split your 38 inch rows and plant 19 inch rows. You could do this by sliding your draw bar all the way to one side, then planting each pass twice, just turn around and go back across the field in the same tire tracks. At harvest time see if you can pick two rows at a time instead of one--now if you like the results, you can go buy a whole new line of machinery--John Deere would probably like the idea!
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why don't you try to split your 38 inch rows and plant 19 inch rows. You could do this by sliding your draw bar all the way to one side, then planting each pass twice, just turn around and go back across the field in the same tire tracks. At harvest time see if you can pick two rows at a time instead of one--now if you like the results, you can go buy a whole new line of machinery--John Deere would probably like the idea!
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09/15/2004 - 1:01 pm
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Name: William Guenther
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The idea sounds good, but we only have a 4 row 38 in planter and it would take qiute a of time at planting. Plus 4 rows would be driven over causing an uneven emergence. We also have a lot of residue from our 20 inch soybeans and we need to run residue managers to get a decient stand. It is an idea that I might try on a 5 acre patch of sod that is getting broken up.
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The idea sounds good, but we only have a 4 row 38 in planter and it would take qiute a of time at planting. Plus 4 rows would be driven over causing an uneven emergence. We also have a lot of residue from our 20 inch soybeans and we need to run residue managers to get a decient stand. It is an idea that I might try on a 5 acre patch of sod that is getting broken up.
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09/15/2004 - 1:01 pm
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Name: William Guenther
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Won't get new green machinery unless absolute necessary. We are White and Agco Farmers. I wear White underwear Not Green ;)
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Won't get new green machinery unless absolute necessary. We are White and Agco Farmers. I wear White underwear Not Green ;)
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09/15/2004 - 1:01 pm
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sorry, the point I was trying to make was that I'm not real sure that the added investment in the machinery to properly grow corn in 20 inch may far surpass the return
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sorry, the point I was trying to make was that I'm not real sure that the added investment in the machinery to properly grow corn in 20 inch may far surpass the return
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09/15/2004 - 1:01 pm
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Name: William Guenther
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I knew what point you were trying to make and it is a good one I was just joking around. I Know that the monitary benefits will probably not out weigh the costs getting but in a few years we are going to need a new planter so why not get one sooner and with 20 in rows. I believe that the long term benefits are going to out weigh the short term costs.
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I knew what point you were trying to make and it is a good one I was just joking around. I Know that the monitary benefits will probably not out weigh the costs getting but in a few years we are going to need a new planter so why not get one sooner and with 20 in rows. I believe that the long term benefits are going to out weigh the short term costs.
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09/15/2004 - 1:01 pm
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Name: Curtis
Email: cdlewton@aol.com
We went to 20" corn & sunflowers 3-4 years ago. We tried 15" but corn heads were to expensive. We then went to a 20" Kinzie planter, as all tires are ahead of frame, this makes for MUCH greater trash clearnce. All our planting is no-till, in Corn stalks, sunflower stalks, or wheat stubble. We are inj a low rainfall area, normally 13" per year and wanted quick canopy, and equidistant plant spacing. All works well. I bought 12" tires for my Rogater but decided it was better to spray across rows. I now it sound odd, but get very little crop damage. Whether or not you can afford to switch is hard to say, we were updating and going to larger equipment anyway.
Email: cdlewton@aol.com
We went to 20" corn & sunflowers 3-4 years ago. We tried 15" but corn heads were to expensive. We then went to a 20" Kinzie planter, as all tires are ahead of frame, this makes for MUCH greater trash clearnce. All our planting is no-till, in Corn stalks, sunflower stalks, or wheat stubble. We are inj a low rainfall area, normally 13" per year and wanted quick canopy, and equidistant plant spacing. All works well. I bought 12" tires for my Rogater but decided it was better to spray across rows. I now it sound odd, but get very little crop damage. Whether or not you can afford to switch is hard to say, we were updating and going to larger equipment anyway.
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12/13/2008 - 12:16 pm
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Ed Winkle
Marion Calmer has a lot of experience at speaks each year at the NNTC sponsored by Lessiter. I would contact him at Alpha Illinois or do a search and you will find his website. An extension worked from Wisconsin gave a good talk on his narrow rows this week at the Ohio NoTill Conference but I don't have his name handy. I have another friend in western Ohio on 15 inch rows. You have to change your thinking a little with narrow rows but it is not hard to do. The benefit is quick canopy.
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12/ 3/2011 - 1:50 pm
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Grant Corley
Interesting comments above. We also farm in an area that often limits yields from low rainfall & high temperatures. We went to 20" rows from 30" rows 38 years ago & like them very well. WE plant Corn, Milo, Soybeans, Silage corn, & Silage Sorghum. Most has been in No-Til, but in early years as we went from tillage to No-Til, we cultivated & sprayed. For the last 21 years, we have been total No-Til or strip till on the corn acres & the cultivator is no longer used. Have tried drilling milo & soybeans as well as silage corn in 7.5" rows & always go back to the 20 inch rows. We plant w/ a JD planter that also has the carrying wheels all ahead of the bar & no rows follow any of the planter tires. We spray w/ a 216/220 Spra-Coupe set up w/ 7.50 X 20 bar tread tires & get along very well. The crops shade the ground much quicker. We use a 12 row 20" Cornhead that we built from John Deere 40 series units & used Calmer poly hoods & snouts as well as Calmer type revolving window rollers. We started w/ a JD 843 frame, added units & drives & use it on an 8820 combine. It does return the extra cost of the added investment in yields & easier weed control. We now use mostly Green equiptment now due to service issues, but have used different colors of equiptment in the past & they all work if properly set up, maintained & adjusted. We feel like 20" rows certainly do have some advantages other than yield. They are easier than wider rows to harvest & often support each other some when weather conditions cause lodging, Later, Grant
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